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Re: [jboske] Re: [lojban] tautologies




la xod cusku di'e


Can bai broda mean "with a certain known, understood level of compulsion"?

That's how I understand it, yes.


Which the context might imply is actually total freedom?

I can't think of any such context. Can you?


Why do you say tagging with fi'o jdima could mean the price is
unimportant?

I don't think I said that. On the contrary, it seems to call attention to the price.

And yet if that's a possible interpretation, then it works
with that I originally said.

I was using it to mean sort of:
"I am aware it has a price; I certainly buy it anyway".

But that doesn't say that I would still buy it if the price were something else, the way "whatever the price" does.

As far as I can tell:

le fancu: the name of the function
le selfancu: the independent variable, set or axis)
le terfancu: the dependent one, specified by the function
le velfancu: the actual relationship that specifies the function

Yes. The first oddity is having a place for the name. Why doesn't for example {klama} have a place for the name of the goer in addition to a place for the goer? Why is it necessary to incorporate the {cmene} notion into the notion of function? That's extremely weird, but I suppose we can mostly ignore the x1.

For x2 and x3 the gi'uste speaks of domain and range. You speak
of the variables. But a price (which is what you had in x2),
for example $3, is neither a domain nor a variable: it is a
value. Indeed if you ignore things like {ce'u} and {makau} there
is no easy way to use variables as such (unbound) in Lojban. The
way you use those places is not as variables but as values:

le selfancu: a value in the domain
le terfancu: a value in the range

As for x4, you just put {li pa} there, which suggests that
you are also using it for the value in the range. Something
like "the function called x1 maps x2 (a value in the range)
to x3=x4 (a value in the domain)". Unless you meant to use
{li pa} not to refer to the number 1, but rather to the
function that maps any value of the range to the number 1.

And I use jei where previous folk have used ce'u-less ka when they want to
mean the quality of a particular sumti/tergismu pair.

Huh? I thought you used {jei} for the truth value.


mu'o mi'e xorxes



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