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[lojban-beginners] Re: closed systems error




la ian cusku di'e

The different velbo'e could also be different psychical and social systems.

.i le mi'o velbo'e goi ko'a cu velbo'e
	le mi'o velbo'e be da poi velbo'e ke'a ku'o
	le la pavbudjo velbo'e be de poi na ka'e velbo'e ke'a

Let me try to translate this.

le mi'o velbo'e: "Our system"
le mi'o velbo'e be da poi velbo'e ke'a: "Our system
(which observes something which is observed)"

The {be da poi velbo'e ke'a} adds nothing, because every
velbo'e, to be a velbo'e, has to be a velbo'e be da poi
velbo'e ke'a. That's even more general: if "broda" has an
x2 place, then every broda has to be a broda be da poi broda
ke'a.

le la pavbudjo velbo'e be de poi na ka'e velbo'e ke'a:
"The Buddhist so-called system".

No velbo'e can be a velbo'e be de poi na ka'e velbo'e ke'a,
so you are suggesting that the Buddhist system is no velbo'e.

Your sentence then comes out as:

Our system distinguishes itself from the Buddhist
so-called "system".

Probably not what you meant, though.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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