[lojban-beginners] Re: Some translations

[Álvaro Vallejo <avallejo@catie.ac.cr>]

coi rodo

Thanks for the list and links.

I need these words because I'm trying to make a picture dictionary. I know
this is a big task for a beginner, but that's a way to practice and make at
the same time something useful for the Lojban community. Yes, grammar is
useful;  I've followed (part of)the Robin and Nicholas course, but
definitely my way is to deal with vocabulary first, so that I'll be able to
focus on grammar latter, which is to me the hardest part of the language.

Álvaro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Newton" <pnewton@gmx.de>
To: <lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:29 AM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Some translations


On 19 Feb 2003 at 9:08, Álvaro Vallejo wrote:

> mi nitcu cu fanva ti glivla la lojban
> (I need to translate into Lojban the following words, is the utterance in
> Lojban right?)

Slow down, cowboy!

I wonder why you "need" so many words right now -- wouldn't basic
grammar be better first? No offense.

FWIW, I'd probably say something more like {mi nitcu lenu fanva le vi
glivla la lojban}.

I also tried something like {mi nitcu lenu fanva ti noi glivla la
lojban}, but that treats {la lojban} as x2 of {glivla}. And if I add
{ge'u}, which I think ought to end the relative phrase {ti noi glivla},
jbofi'e doesn't like the sentence any more.

Hang on... *looks through ma'oste again* ku'o? Ah, that seems to work.

{mi nitcu lenu fanva ti noi glivla ku'o la lojban}, then.

(What's the difference between a "relative phrase" (terminated by
{ge'u}) and a "relative clause" (terminated by {ku'o}), then?)


I think most of the words below will surely be fu'ivla; certainly, I
believe most of the animals will be.

http://www.lojban.org/wiki/index.php/danlu%20baljutsi may be
interesting.

>     calf

bakni verba?

>     igloo

{iglu} has been proposed. Maybe {dinjrxiglu} if you want a fu'ivla?

>     lamb - lanme?

{lanme} is any sheep, so yes. Maybe {lanme verba} for more precision,
or {lanme cifnu} for a very young one?

>     piano - pipno?

.ie

>     shears

jinci

>     sheep - lanme? (see lamb)

.ie

>     shovel

canpa

>     sledge hammer

something with {mruli}, presumably.

>     trombone
>     trumpet

These are both kinds of {tabra}.

>     violin

A kind of {jgita}. {jgitrvioline}, perhaps?

>     x-acto

dakfrxeksakto ?

mu'o mi'e filip.
--
filip.niutyn. <Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de>
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