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[lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban





Em domingo, 5 de novembro de 2017 13:01:39 UTC+3, Benoit Neil escreveu:
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I recently stumbled upon a document (le teris...) which was in declined in two versions: "CLL Lojban" and "modern Lojban". I don't understand why.
  • What is the status of "modern Lojban"? Is it a kind of beta / pre-release / proposal? Or is there a schism / fork, were a group prefer one version over the other?

This is a long standing issue. As shanoxilt once correctly noted Lojban was hijacked by a clique of so called fluent speakers.
They started forking never completing any printed documentation of they were doing. Firs they change the meaning of the particle {lo}, then tried to implement other changes including even the formal grammar.

When people try to speak to fluent speakers they are immediately faced with these discprepancies between The Complete Lojban Language book and views of particular people. You can imagine all the negative consequences of this situation.

But in spite of deterioration of Lojban community and its inability to produce any fruitful results still Lojban is pretty much how The Complete Lojban Language describes it.
E.g. learning a revised meaning {lo} is no big deal.

  • What are (in a few words) the differences between the two? Why choose one or another?
  • Where is the reference documentation of "modern Lojban"?
.i ki'e ro do
.i co'o

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