Wow. I mean "Waaaaaaow!": you guys & gals seem to have "somewhat deeply" study subject of languages, logic, predicates, morphisms, philosophy... and a few other words I'm not 100% sure I understand the contours (maybe my English level?). Of course, you may say that you did not dive as deep as you wanted ;) ...
I also have the feeling that two reading levels arose: the "technical" discussion, and the "user" discussion.
I would certainly not break up the discussion, so please go on with the "technical" level: that brings very interesting things.
But as interesting it is, I'd also like to come to a very low-brow / down-to-earth / "simple" user point of view. That was actually what I wanted to do with my basic summary. Gleki and guskant pointed out interesting imprecisions/mistakes (thank you both), and others added many details (thank you too). So, may I try again?
In this version:
- I'm still keeping it readable by "anyone" (actually a potential new Lojbanist with absolutely no specific knowledge related to it).
- This time, I'm not writing what Lojban "is". I rather had similar content with a bit more distant approach: I'm telling the "work about Lojban tended to (...blah blah...) and any change should not break up those fundamentals". That's slightly different. That way, I can tackle the two points Gleki rightly pointed out:
- "Culturally neutral" is okay as long as it is an clear it is an intent, and that it is something really partial.
- Document is both about description and politics of future Lojban.
- Last point implies neutrality of the document (which may be difficult). I'm trying to keep it neutral regarding to various expressed points of view in this thread. Said otherwise: I try to catch what supposedly "reformists" and "fundamentalists" (sorry for the names) agree on, as for an external observer. As la .pycyn. pointed out, none of those two "goals" are clear.
Please provide any critics, on the form and substance. You'll see I added yellow highlighting: those items are clearly to be debated/adjusted.
And maybe a section with "major" (!) ways of thinking the furure of Lojban should be expressed?...
Hope to read you soon.
Cheers,
la .sykyndyr.