Agreed. There appear to be two groups/demographics: those who want an unambiguous, centrally-defined, off-the-shelf language (group A) and those who want a better, more efficient language (group B).
I have nothing against people making backwards-incompatible changes, if they call it a Lojban-derived language rather than Lojban itself*. Calling them the same name brings in all the versioning issues I mentioned below, then the users of both group A and B get confused.
*Or Lojban 1 and Lojban 2, similar to how Python 2 and Python 3 are incompatible - but as long as it's a fundamental and obvious demarkation.
If group A works on "finishing" Lojban, and group B works on a Lojban-inspired rework, and someone makes a tool to translate between the two languages (which is possible because both are unambiguous), then the word definition work done by group A is still helpful for group B. Growing the user base in group A will generate more data that can be used by group B, too.
I am part of group A. I just want to use the language and not have different versions interfere with the unambiguity of what I produce.
I think these groups can coexist without problem, if managed and differentiated correctly :)
Hope this helps, Timothy From: lojban@googlegroups.com <lojban@googlegroups.com> on behalf of MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 29 December 2017 2:47 PM To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: CLL and modern Lojban While backwards-compatibility is important to some people, it is not so important to others. I'd rather see a much improved version, usually done by simplification, that wasn't backwards-compatible
than to maintain backwards-compatibility and lose the opportunity for a (much) better language.
stevo
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Timothy Lawrence
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