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Re: [lojban] {zo'e}



u'i coi

You've buried the lede somewhat. There probably *aren't* context-free formal definitions possible for {zo'e}, because speakers usually intend either the semantics of {zi'o} (pretend that the place doesn't exist) or {su'o da} (something fills the place but it is irrelevant; it does logically exist, though!) The former is fulfilled when zero or more objects match, but the latter requires at least one object to match.

As a basic example, in the utterance {mi vecnu zo'e}, am I asserting that at least one sale takes place? (Ignoring temporal issues.)

On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 9:32:29 AM UTC-8 Ilmen wrote:

Le 03/12/2020 à 01:31, scope845h...@icebubble.org a écrit :
> Formal definitions of cmavo can be found on the BPFK pages of the Wiki
> at lojban.org. When I say "formal" definitions, I mean that their
> meanings are defined very specifially, typically using Lojban.

I'm not seeing any formal definition (i.e. substitutional definition) at
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK_Section:_Grammatical_Pro-sumti#cmavo:_zo.27e_.28KOhA7.29
<https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK_Section:_Grammatical_Pro-sumti#cmavo:_zo.27e_.28KOhA7.29>.

—Ilmen.


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