From jjllambias@xxxxxxx.xxxx Sat Aug 14 14:47:34 1999 X-Digest-Num: 211 Message-ID: <44114.211.1128.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:47:34 PDT From: "Jorge Llambias" From: xod > >Question: is a programmer is le platu, le zbasu, or le finti? > >I think a software designer/architect is le finti or le platu, and an >implementer is le zbasu. Sounds right. I suppose it depends on which aspect of programming you want to emphasize. >In this case, pagbu is probably sufficient. Do you think that pagbu can >always represent "aspect"? No, I think the best general purpose translation of "aspect" is {jvinu}. Different aspects of something are the different ways the same thing looks like when seen from different angles or under a different light. >By the way, Multimedia = vrici selcusku not vrici velcusku, right? velcusku is the medium. selcusku is the message. > > Then {datni} sounds more like information, if you look > > at its x2 and x3 places. Maybe something using {selci} > > for data? > >One option is to assume that the writers of the gismu list didn't quite >understand the subtle difference between data and information/facts, A safe assumption, but it's a subtle difference which is not really made outside of computer science. If you look at most gismu you will see that each of them covers a pretty wide range of meaning, they were not really supposed to make the kind of specific fine distinction you're making here. >and that datni really means data. Who is the "authority" on such issues? The users of the language are the final authority. I doubt users in general will worry too much about the difference you want between data and information. In English the distinction is not made outside of computer science either. Since it was more or less artificially introduced in English, you can do the same in Lojban through your lexicon, and see if Lojnanist computer scientists adopt it. >Or we could use data = datni selci I think that is pretty clear. >XML describes HTML; a specification for HTML can be written using XML. In >any case, meta is not membership or subsetness, so it must get its own >brivla. Maybe {vasru} then. co'o mi'e xorxes