From lojbab@xxxxxx.xxxx Sun Sep 26 02:36:48 1999 X-Digest-Num: 244 Message-ID: <44114.244.1339.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 05:36:48 -0400 From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" From: zeno@deltanet.com (Zeno) >I have the lists from the following sites: > http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/gismu > http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/cmavo > http://www.lojban.org/files/wordlists/lujvo-list > >I have learned what most of the fields in the records are, but I have >some questions, and I wonder if anyone can help me. I have the >following definitions from the lujvo-list and gismu files: > > cintyfaigau:cinta+fatri+gasnu:to paint something:$gasnu1 $fatri1 > $=cinta1 $fatri2 > > cinta paint > x1 [material] is a paint of pigment/active substance x2, in a base > of x3 a 6 (cf. pixra, skari) > > fatri fai distribute > x1 is distributed/allotted/allocated/shared among x2 with > shares/portions x3; (x2/x3 fa'u) 8c 22 [also spread, > shared out, apportioned; agentive distribution (= fairgau, > fairzu'e)]; (cf. cmavo list fa'u, fendi, preja, katna, tcana) > > gasnu gau do > x1 [person/agent] is an agentive cause of event x2; > x1 does/brings about x2 2e 142 (cf. cmavo > list gau, gunka, zukte, rinka, fasnu for non-agentive events, > jibri, kakne, pilno) > >For cintyfaigau, I assume the sumti are not taken from gasnu, but are >the doohickeys listed with dollar signs after the definition, which >would make the sumti x1 from gasnu x1, x2 from fatri x1, x3 from cinta >x1, and x4 from fatri x2. Can anyone tell me what the equals sign >means on x3 ($=cinta1)? The dollar signs are not separators indicating a new sumti, but were markers for computer processing of the entries if I recall. The equal sign means that this semantic role fills the same place as the previous sumti, so there are only 3 places on the lujvo. The lujvo-list file was the original work done by Nick Nicholas back in 1994. I oughta someday get the working dictionary file uploaded. It has much clearer text: cintyfaigau:cinta+fatri+gasnu:to paint something: x1 = gasnu1 (do), x2 = fatri1 (distributed) = cinta1 (paint), x3 = fatri2 (receive share) If it is already there (possible since I am not actively maintaining our archive and have no idea what is and is not uploaded these days) the file is jvoste1.key lojbab ---- lojbab ***NOTE NEW ADDRESS*** lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: see Lojban WWW Server: href=" http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/ " Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.