From slobin@ice.ru Sat Aug 24 20:07:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: slobin@ice.ru X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 25 Aug 2002 03:07:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6605 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2002 03:07:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Aug 2002 03:07:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO party.ice.ru) (193.110.4.62) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 03:07:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (slobin@localhost) by party.ice.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id HAA24045 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:07:57 +0400 X-Authentication-Warning: party.lan.ice.ru: slobin owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 07:07:57 +0400 (MSD) X-Sender: To: Subject: non-volitional zukte Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Cyril Slobin X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6806222 X-Yahoo-Profile: slobinru coi rodo How to say "x1 is active/functions/operates/works"? {zukte} is for volitional activity, but what if x1 is a machine or eg. a shop? I've asked on IRC, and best option we found is {se sazri}, but I feel it is not the answer. Any suggestions? co'o mi'e kir. -- Cyril Slobin