From xod@thestonecutters.net Thu Sep 05 13:36:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 5 Sep 2002 20:36:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 30106 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 20:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2002 20:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 20:36:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17n3MQ-0003WN-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:36:18 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17n3Lr-0003W2-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:35:44 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17n3Ll-0003Vt-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:35:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85KZa645238 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:35:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:35:36 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] termsets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020905163152.S43868-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 929 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Jorge Llambias wrote: > A gives {B to C} and {D to F}. > abu dunda nu'ige by boi cy gi dy boi fy > > Each term in a termset fills a different place. I'm not sure how this logic fits with using termsets to specify precise magnitudes with sumtcita tenses. There is, after all, only one place there: the place opened by the sumtcita. Using termsets then seems like wrapping one sumti (term) inside another. > Does the fact that not even John Cowan can get this straight > prove that termsets are unusable and should be avoided? Is there another way to achieve explicit magnitudes? -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn