From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Sep 10 17:44:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 11 Sep 2002 00:44:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 78857 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2002 00:44:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2002 00:44:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao02.cox.net) (68.1.17.243) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 00:44:06 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020911004406.MDTM12192.lakemtao02.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:44:06 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910201610.03175ec0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: lojbab@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:43:34 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Le Petit Prince: Can we legally translate it? In-Reply-To: <20020910215248.GV6798@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <8b.1da07da3.2aafc1e0@aol.com> <8b.1da07da3.2aafc1e0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Bob LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 02:52 PM 9/10/02 -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >I've already answered this question to you, but I'll try again: > >Suggest something out of copyright, with reasonably modern language, >originally written in English, that someone besides you here has >actually read. I recommend that people start by looking at what is available on Project Gutenberg and other online text archives that are validated against copyright problems. ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg/GUTINDEX.ALL There's only around 3400 books done to choose from on this one source. The following have lists of non-Gutenberg etexts http://www.infomotions.com/alex/titles/ http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/titles.html The latter list is 3 megabytes long in a browse file, so there is an enormous amount of stuff to choose from, but some is pretty obscure http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/in-progress.html lists stuff that is in progress or which has been requested but not started. http://www.lib.virginia.edu/wess/etexts.html has lists of etexts in several other European languages. I remain partial to Burton's version of the Arabian Nights of which 12 volumes are up on Gutenberg (not sure if its complete - I've seen up to 30 volume versions), because it has the virtue of being of classic interest and because it definitely is NOT a children's book but retained some of the general appeal of same. But whether the language is "reasonably modern" is a matter of opinion; it is Victorian era and he was trying to emulate the flowery style of the Arabic. It also is not something that will be finished real soon, but yet can be broken up into pieces of arbitrary size, since there are tales a page or two long and tales of close to novel length. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org