From opoudjis@optushome.com.au Thu Sep 12 00:33:55 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 12 Sep 2002 07:33:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24565 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 07:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Sep 2002 07:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cygnus.its.unimelb.EDU.AU) (128.250.20.112) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 07:33:54 -0000 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.2-29 #46888) id <01KMF6QUJ5MO96VYC1@SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:33:51 +1000 Received: from [128.250.86.21] (porchermac.language.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.86.21]) by SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.2-29 #46888) with ESMTP id <01KMF6QTL97O913799@SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:33:51 +1000 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:27:01 +1000 Subject: Re: word for "www" (was: Archive location.) X-Sender: opoudjis@mail.optushome.com.au To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From: Nick Nicholas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=90350612 X-Yahoo-Profile: opoudjis cu'u la djorden. >That said, CLL seemed to me when I read it to be very much in favor >of lujvo which are literally-devised in a predictable fashion (but >allowing for removing pieces of the source tanru to shorten them). CLL has a whopping disclaimer at the front of it, saying that those are my ideas, not LLG policy; and lojbab wasn't exactly passionately agreeing with them. I think the idea is correct, else I wouldn't have advocated it; I've said enough on the wiki and elsewhere about this, but I certainly haven't changed my mind. If other Lojbanists choose to agree with dikyjvo, bully for them; and the marketplace of ideas is where it will get duked out. >Pre-CLL lojban had plenty of problems (literal lujvo aside), so I >don't think the implied argument of "it's always been this way, so >it's the right way" makes any sense whatsoever (especially if you're >reaching back to the Dark Ages (loglan days) of the language). .i mi tugni pi ro la'edi'u -- **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** * Dr Nick Nicholas, Linguistics/French & Italian nickn@unimelb.edu.au * University of Melbourne, Australia http://www.opoudjis.net * "Eschewing obfuscatory verbosity of locutional rendering, the * circumscriptional appelations are excised." --- W. Mann & S. Thompson, * _Rhetorical Structure Theory: A Theory of Text Organisation_, 1987. * **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****