From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Tue Sep 17 03:46:05 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 17 Sep 2002 10:46:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 30848 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 10:46:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2002 10:46:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 10:46:05 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:13:56 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:46:09 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:45:53 +0100 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] carolingianosity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Nick: #... and that leads me to a question. {la nanmu poi barda} is Mr Great=20 #Man, and {la nanmu ku poi barda} is the great Mr Man. I gather {la=20 #poi barda ku'o nanmu} is also {la nanmu ku poi barda}? And with=20 #cmene, I can't do this trick, can I --- I can't distinguish between=20 #*Charles Great {la karolus poi barda} and the great Charles *{la=20 #karolus ku poi barda} --- let alone *{la poi barda karolus}. I seem to recall asking this question & getting the answer you give. One point: I would do "the great Mr Man" as {la nanmu ku noi barda}, and would take {la nanmu ku poi barda} to mean=20 "the great member(s) of the group called Mr Man". --And.