From xod@thestonecutters.net Fri Sep 20 11:33:33 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 20 Sep 2002 18:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 55946 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 18:32:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2002 18:32:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 18:32:28 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17sSba-0002L0-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:34:18 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17sSb3-0002Ka-00; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:33:45 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17sSaz-0002KQ-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:33:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8KIVma23904 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:31:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:31:47 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Translation request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020920142919.U22277-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1395 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Jorge Llambias wrote: > la xod cusku di'e > > > > > Could you translate the phrase at > > > > http://lingvo.org/dokumentoj/ksnd.html into Lojban. > > > >.a'o .i le bangu poi kampu je sampu je kulnu vudypai je remoi cei > >kysykyry. cu ralju ke nibli je tolkargu je pretru ke'e toldaspo le cusku > >nabmi be lo'e ro'opre > > My take: > > i lo'e kampu je sampu je nutli je remoi bangu goi KSNR cu > jicmu traji gi'e tolkargu traji gi'e rolseltru traji vau fo > lei danfu be le cusku nabmi be lo'e ropno prenu > > Using {le bangu} suggests that you're talking of a particular > language, and, even though they obviously do have a particular > language in mind, they don't present it that way. huh? (Also, KSKR > is a sumti, you can't assign it with {cei}.) I was afraid of that. Repeating traji > is necessary because they claim it is the most fundamental, > the most economic, and the most democratic, not just the most > in all three things together but the most in each of them, which > is a stronger claim. I don't agree that repetition creates a stronger claim. > Komuna, Simpla, Neŭtrala, Dua (K.S.N.D.) lingvo estas la plej > fundamenta, la plej ekonomia, la plej demokrata solvo por la > komunikadproblemo de la Eŭropa civitano. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn