From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Sep 20 14:10:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 20 Sep 2002 21:10:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 75132 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 21:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2002 21:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 21:10:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17sV4o-0002ud-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:12:38 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17sV4C-0002sz-00; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:12:00 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17sV49-0002sq-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:11:57 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8KLGGGZ044366 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:16:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8KLGG3S044365 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:16:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:16:16 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] bloti/marce Message-ID: <20020920211616.GA44068@allusion.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1403 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 08:58:03PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > la greg cusku di'e > > > .i lo bloti cu marce fi lo djacu > > > >Not by definition it isn't: > > > >bloti lot blo lo'i boat /x1 is a > >boat/ship/vessel [vehicle] for carrying x2, propelled by x3 > > > >Does this boat/ship/vessel intend a "float on water" gloss in the origin= al > >intention? >=20 > All xod said was that some boats float on some water, and that > does not contradict the definition. I think you're reading > something more general into what he wrote. I'm not sure whether > he meant to say something more general, because the English > generic "a" often is mistranslated as {lo}. .i ru'a lo'e bloti .e le'e bloti cu marce fi loi djacu .iku'i lo bloti cu marce fi lo drata be ra .i .e'u le si'o bloti cu dunli le si'o marce fi da poi na sligu to djacu ja kensa toi .i pe'ipei --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9i5AfDrrilS51AZ8RAsjkAKDMOoaiVHpnGsW0XEGhegvJCTLVIACeJ8N9 wsPWVjyT42iD9pbSZT8psPw= =IRyL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR--