From ragnarok@pobox.com Sun Sep 29 18:06:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 01:06:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 72508 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 01:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 01:06:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 01:06:41 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.29] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3A2526D006A; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:06:42 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] MELBI COI Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.29] X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >I don't know. I'm thinking of the slogan "el pueblo, unido, jamás >será vencido": "The people, united, will never be defeated". >Maybe the problem is that I've always understood it as an >unrealized aspiration and not as a description of a state of >affairs. I don't get the same from "Reino Unido", "Estados Unidos", >"Naciones Unidas", etc. The people of the Naciones Unidas will never be defeated, unless a hostile alien being shows up. Of course, we aren't united completely, but if we were we might be able to defeat them. Even so, if they are like the ones in "signs" we can still beat them.