From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Oct 03 07:46:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 3 Oct 2002 14:46:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 37429 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 14:46:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2002 14:46:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 14:46:31 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17x7IU-0002Ka-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 07:49:50 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17x7Hs-0002K9-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 07:49:12 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 07:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17x7Ho-0002K0-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 07:49:09 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g93ErBGZ089889 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:53:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g93ErBou089888 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:53:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:53:11 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: a new kind of fundamentalism Message-ID: <20021003145311.GA89770@allusion.net> References: <002d01c26ac6$381a1ee0$50ecf8c1@ftiq2awxk6> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002d01c26ac6$381a1ee0$50ecf8c1@ftiq2awxk6> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1862 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 12:17:36PM +0200, Lionel Vidal wrote: [...] > You seem to regret the existence of different kind of "lojbanists". But > every one is free to have his own objectives when considering lojban. > I guess you will not call me a "lojbanist", but that only shows that > the semantic of "lojbanist" may have to evolve :-), or that new > words may have to be coined. Everything lojbab said, and it should be noted that I am *not* against new words (and I don't think anyone is). New words are absolutely of paramount importance; despite the ability to have simple conversations we don't yet have a full vocab. Now, there's a difference between new words and new gismu. The way new words are supposed to be added to the language (at this stage of language development) is through stage 3/4 fu'ivla and new lujvo. -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku