From pycyn@aol.com Fri Oct 18 01:32:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 18 Oct 2002 08:32:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9337 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 08:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2002 08:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r04.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.100) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2002 08:32:58 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.12f.19443bb4 (4529) for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 04:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <12f.19443bb4.2ae12134@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 04:32:52 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: enlighten To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12f.19443bb4.2ae12134_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra --part1_12f.19443bb4.2ae12134_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/17/2002 7:41:19 PM Central Daylight Time, lojban-out@lojban.org writes: << > le lojbo? > > I guess just eschews *unmarked* metaphor, though >> And not even those in tanru. the rproblem with using {gusni} in the tanru for "enlighten" was not that it was a metaphor but that it was a dead metaphor, a calque. a malglico. Some better metaphor would have been nice. --part1_12f.19443bb4.2ae12134_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/17/2002 7:41:19 PM Central Daylight Time, lojban-out@lojban.org writes:

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le lojbo?

I guess just eschews *unmarked* metaphor, though

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And not even those in tanru.  the rproblem with using {gusni} in the tanru for "enlighten" was not that it was a metaphor but that it was a dead metaphor, a calque. a malglico.  Some better metaphor would have been nice.
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