From xod@thestonecutters.net Mon Oct 21 14:47:31 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 21 Oct 2002 21:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 65587 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2002 21:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Oct 2002 21:47:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2002 21:47:29 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 183kTh-0007de-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:52:49 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 183kSz-0007dK-00; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:52:05 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 183kSu-0007d8-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:52:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9LLkcm93764 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:46:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:46:38 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] sumti ordering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021021174209.N92224-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2288 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Nick Nicholas wrote: > And you know, if presented with {finti ro bangu}, I'll assume that > "behold! one person inventing all languages", and {ro bangu se finti} > as "all languages are invented" -- and yes, that's natural, but I'd > have also thought that's reasonable. My interpretation of both of these is exactly the same: the claim that "ro bangu" belongs in the second place of finti, which means they were invented. Your former case is trivially expressible the explicit way: da finti ro bangu. -- Henry McCullers, an affable Plano, TX-area anti-Semite, praised the Jewish people Monday for doing "a bang-up job" running the media. "This has been such a great year for movies, and the new crop of fall TV shows looks to be one of the best in years," McCullers said. "And the cable news channels are doing a terrific job, too. Admittedly, they're not reporting on the Jewish stranglehold on world finance, but, hey, that's understandable."