From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Wed Oct 23 17:41:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 24 Oct 2002 00:41:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 58293 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 00:41:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Oct 2002 00:41:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-11.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.111) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2002 00:41:11 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-98.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.98]) by mailbox-11.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9D220CDD for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 02:41:09 +0200 (MEST) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Brivla for "patient" Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 01:42:46 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin xorxes: > la and cusku di'e > > >Tsali: > > > I don't know the precise definition for the linguistic term, but doesn't > > > 'jai selgau' cover it and not much more? > > > >In the sense that out of the many other nonpatienty things that are > >jai selgau, only for the patienty things is it the least unobvious > >description? Unfortunately we don't have a rafsi for jai, so it > >will have to be jaizeiselgau. Or jaizeigasnu. Or even, I suppose, > >jaizeigau > > There was consensus at some point to give jai the rafsi 'jaz' > See for example: > > http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9411/msg00263.html > > However the gi'uste was never updated, so nothing came of that "jaz" it is, then. jazyselgau, or maybe jazgau for short. Interesting to see, from Nick's message you point to, that {re'u} did get born, but {xruti} didn't get deagentivized. I wonder why that was. --And.