From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Dec 06 12:30:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Dec 2002 20:30:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 32859 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2002 20:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2002 20:30:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2002 20:30:36 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18KP7M-0001Xp-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:30:36 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KP7H-0001XX-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:30:31 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18KP7B-0001XM-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:30:25 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:30:25 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Some concerns from a Lojban beginner Message-ID: <20021206203025.GL28980@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <1FD5CBE3-079C-11D7-9FC7-003065D4EC72@optushome.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1FD5CBE3-079C-11D7-9FC7-003065D4EC72@optushome.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 3155 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:21:56AM +1100, Nick Nicholas wrote: > IMO, whatever the political motivations, Lojban loses by being defined > publicly in terms of Loglan. Think how many sleeper cells you pick up > by saying Lojban is a Loglan --- and then consider how much damage is > done when Don Harlow, in his description of conlangs, sneeringly > refers to "Loglan and its offshoot, Lojban." I hadn't thought about it that way before. I think I agree. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi