From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Fri Dec 06 18:00:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Dec 2002 02:00:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27199 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2002 02:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2002 02:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2002 02:00:58 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18KUH4-0006ZZ-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:00:58 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KUH1-0006ZE-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:00:55 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.112]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KUGw-0006YX-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:00:50 -0800 Received: from oemcomputer (host81-7-63-172.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.63.172]) by lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019C45B8D2 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 03:00:18 +0100 (MET) To: Subject: [lojban] Re: cmegadri valfendi preti Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:02:28 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20021207005950.GD28980@digitalkingdom.org> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 3191 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Robin: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 07:56:24PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, And Rosta wrote: > > > > > Do you think so? Personally, I don't think I am capable of parsing > > > the phonological string without the aid of pragmatics (i.e. knowing > > > in advance what it is that you are likely to be saying) > > > > > > I can assure you that pragmatics provides most of the understanding in > > actual Lojban conversation > > I would say 'context' rather than 'pragmatics', but I *strongly* agree > with xod I'm glad, because I wouldn't have believed you if you'd claimed that pragmatics/context was not the main provider-of-understanding in Lojban conversation. It certainly is in English, and I'd have found it hard to believe that Lojban would be otherwise, especially in these early days. --And.