From lojbab@lojban.org Sat Dec 07 13:13:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Dec 2002 21:13:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 78698 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2002 21:13:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2002 21:13:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao01.cox.net) (68.1.17.244) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2002 21:13:41 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021207211339.VVGW2199.lakemtao01.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:13:39 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021207155837.03926140@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 16:06:57 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] More stuff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab Earlier today I posted in response to Nick a hierarchy of lesser to greater changes to the baseline. Nora said that it came out unreadable to her because of the line wrapping, so I'm reposting that portion with more care taken. ... For baseline changes, I think there is a hierarchy of stability, and for any part of the language definition, we want to think multiple times before elevating the to a higher level of change consideration, because opening the door to one change invites other changes at the same level and sooner or later you won't recognize the language. Lowest to highest 1 typo correction 2 clarification that does not contradict a viable denotation of the existing definition 3 clarification that basically admits I/we chose poor wording so that the denotation of the existing definition is misleading (rewording a gismu definition) 4 splitting of a word into two words to resolve polysemy 5 addition of a new word not justified by polysemy on a currently unassigned cmavo (or adding a single line YACC grammar rule that changes no others, e.g. CAhA+NAI, adding a place to place structure) 6 deleting an assigned cmavo because it is useless (deleting a place from place structure, or a gismu) 7 addition of a new word reusing such a deassigned cmavo (seems much higher than using an unassigned cmavo - I would support using xVV before reassigning tei even if tei is deleted (changing a place structure other than simple addition or deletion) Note that while deleting a cmavo, deleting a place from a place structure, or gismu are all listed as level 6, the hierarchy for each area has a different level of assumed stability, so deleting an apparently useless cmavo should be a little easier than deleting a useless gismu or place structure. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org