From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Dec 10 11:27:10 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 19:27:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 97488 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 19:27:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 19:27:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao03.cox.net) (68.1.17.242) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 19:27:10 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021210192710.TJLN2204.lakemtao03.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:27:10 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021210135956.031680c0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:07:24 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: html tag ethics In-Reply-To: <5ABDCA94-0C4D-11D7-A99A-000393629ED4@uic.edu> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021210055644.03166600@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 08:40 AM 12/10/02 -0600, Steven Belknap wrote: >On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 05:15 AM, Robert LeChevalier wrote: >>> Even you refer to "Loglan", meaning TLI's implementation of JCB's idea, >> >>We officially use "TLI Loglan" to refer to JCB's language. If we were to >>only use "Loglan" to refer to JCB's language, and only use "Lojban" for >>ours, we could undo the court-ruling that "Loglan" is generic. > >I would prefer to use TLI Loglan to refer to the ancestor language and >Loglan to refer to the currently active language. You might prefer it, but the community has chosen to use Lojban. I occasionally use the full name "Lojban - A Realization of Loglan" when being formal, but informally no one is likely to use that phrase. Meanwhile, in the context of your 500, TLI Loglan is not even a single language, but a family of languages, ranging from the one in the 1960 Sci Am article to the 3rd edition language of 1974-5 to the 4th edition language of 1989, to the current TLI language. But all of them call their language "Loglan", and our language "Lojban". > In the interests of clarity for those who lack a full appreciation for > the history of the language, I have agreed to use LLG Loglan for the > active language for a brief time. I will now only use lojban when writing > in LLG Loglan. Which reminds me that all this political nonsense is > interfering with my actual learning of LLG Loglan. Yes it is. And everyone else's, which is why they are showing hostility. They don't care! lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org