From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Dec 12 14:04:36 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 12 Dec 2002 22:04:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27461 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2002 22:04:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Dec 2002 22:04:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2002 22:04:36 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18MbRb-0004MF-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:04:35 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18MbQr-0004Ls-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:03:49 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18MbQl-0004Lh-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:03:43 -0800 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.38] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7C46415004C; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:03:48 -0500 To: Subject: [lojban] Re: bridling hostility (was: RE: Re: the ethics of the HTMLcontent meta tag Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:03:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3DF8A82A.5060907@bilkent.edu.tr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: raganok@intrex.net [209.42.200.38] X-Note: Total weight is 0. Whitelisted X-archive-position: 3511 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: raganok@intrex.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: raganok@intrex.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out >I agree that a little more politeness is in order. Perhaps we could >agree that all insulting messages should be posted in Lojban. If >nothing else it would be more amusing: After a little private communication, an ammendment is in order: "personal criticism is only acceptable if expressed in Lojban, showing an imaginative and amusing use of the language". This is to avoid things like Thinkit's reaction to Jay's (inspired but mean) "ko na'e zasti" from happening again. Lojban's preference for literal expressions rather than the veiled form that is used in English abuse makes it difficult to criticize in Lojban without violating rules of English that have become embedded in our sense of what is and isn't nice. Now there's a SW effect for you...