From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Jan 26 16:53:47 2000 X-Digest-Num: 345 Message-ID: <44114.345.1856.959273825@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:53:47 PST From: "Jorge Llambias" Subject: Re: Fwd: Subjunctive? la xod cusku di'e > > (2) ganai mi ponse lo megdo rupnu gi mi pindi > > "Either I don't have a million dollars, or I am poor." > > > > That is also true. I don't have a million dollars, so > > no matter what I put as the second term the sentence > > will be true. > >It's not true in the general case; it does not fit TFTT, as a conditional >should, because in reality, millionaires are not called poor. What are you calling the "general case"? There is nothing general about that sentence, it is about one definite person and a definite amount of money. What you seem to be thinking about is something like "for all x, either x does not have a million dollars or x is poor". I agree that sentence is false. But sentence (2) above is true, there is no "general case" of that sentence unless you start talking about quantifying over possible worlds or things like that. >Specifically: > >A:"I am a millionaire" B:"I am poor" A-->B (is A-->B really) > > T T T F > T F F T A is false, so A->B is true. That's that. If you are considering cases where A is true, then you are either talking of a different "I", not me, and therefore not the same sentence, or you are talking of a different world, not this real one, where I do have a million dollars. In either case you need to do something more than the bare true statement: ganai mi ponse lo megdo rupnu gi mi pindi co'o mi'e xorxes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com