From phma@webjockey.net Wed Feb 19 09:07:51 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 19 Feb 2003 17:07:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 71523 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 17:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2003 17:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 17:03:43 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lXdG-00039F-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:03:42 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lXd5-00038w-00; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:03:31 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from p3ee2b537.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.226.181.55] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lXcz-00038n-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:03:25 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D0F29389D; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: skiji Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:03:10 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1045670709.3e53ab3584b6a@imp.free.fr> In-Reply-To: <1045670709.3e53ab3584b6a@imp.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200302191803.10389.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 4103 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 17:05, jexOm. wrote: > coi. rodo .i mi'e jexOm. > > Do you understand the following? > > {.i le nu mi pu klama le cmana poi se cmene zo .alp. tezu'e mi te skiji loi > snime} "That I went to the mountain called Alp for my purpose is skiing on snow." Events of going to mountains don't ski on snow. > Would there be a better way of saying it? > For example, would {le la .alp. cmana} be better than {le cmana poi se > cmene zo .alp.}? I would say {lai .alp}. {le cmana poi se cmene zo .alp} means that "Alp" is the name of a mountain, not a mountain range. {le la .alp. cmana} means "the mountain of the Alp", which indicates that you have a particular mountain in mind, and sounds OK to me. {la .alp. cman.} means "Mount Alp". > Is {loi} appropriate for {snime} here? Yes. > Is the construction {le nu ... tezu'e ...} correct for saying "I have done > this for/in_order_to do that"? No. It should be {mi klama tezu'e lenu te skiji} or {mi zukte lenu klama kei lenu skiji}. mu'omi'e pier. -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.