From xod@thestonecutters.net Thu Mar 13 12:04:31 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 13 Mar 2003 20:04:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 1963 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 20:04:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Mar 2003 20:04:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 20:04:30 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18tYwI-0001CM-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:04:30 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tYvr-0001Bj-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:04:03 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tYvR-0001B1-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:03:38 -0800 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2DK3QXd087840 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:03:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h2DK3QBk087837 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:03:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:03:25 -0500 (EST) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: spofu skami In-Reply-To: <20030313194006.GR25165@digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: <20030313145505.B85179-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4498 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 02:25:29PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote: > > You must be waiting for me to launch into a tirade about how > > neuron-like computer networks are. > > Not really, no. > > > In fact, the "dotted lines" bounding gismu are as arbitrary as > > anything else. But just because one covers more than one English word > > does not make it polysemic. Polysemy is when there are more than one, > > topologically-separate "dotted line" regions. > > OK, see, *that* was an argument. > > Now if you could please explain to me how a definition that encompasses > both computer networks and neurons does *not* include talking, or a > piece of string between two cans, I'd appreciate it. Unless you don't > *mind* those being included, of course. Information or control networks that are made from nodes. I guess the node part is already implied by the network. > > The reason I ask is that the only similarity I'm aware of between a > neuran and computer networks is data transmission, and there are a *lot* > of things that are data transmission. I don't see why a telephone (or a central office?) isn't a lo nirna in such a network. Or a player of spofu fonxa. > BTW, what is the x2 of nirna for a computer network? There's no body, > so I'm not sure what you'd put there. I think it's the network of which the x1 is a node. -- "This is an example of what elections should be, with 97 percent participation, free of money and corruption and totally transparent," Cuban Vice President Carlos Lage told Reuters.