From ragnarok@pobox.com Sat Mar 29 06:28:55 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 29 Mar 2003 14:28:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 29097 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 14:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2003 14:28:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 14:28:54 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18zHKI-00026U-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 06:28:54 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18zHK4-000269-00; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 06:28:40 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 29 Mar 2003 06:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18zHJu-00025h-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 06:28:30 -0800 Received: from craig [209.42.200.67] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id AD6E60D01FC; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:27:58 -0500 To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Learning Progressions Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:27:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030329093003.GU28386@digitalkingdom.org> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.67] X-archive-position: 4684 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "Craig" Reply-To: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >The tanru -> lujvo -> fu'ivla progression, however, seems to be >rather universal. Given unlimited sentence preperation time, >newbies build these *amazing* tanru with je and stuff. Medium-bies >try to turn everything into lujvo ("what's a good lujvo for >'pineapple daquiri'?"). And now, the obligatory counterexample. I would consider myself medium. I know all the frequently-used gismu (and many of their rafsi), and a lot of cmavo. BUT, I am against nonce lujvo as they create extra work for the listener. So I still use lots of tanru even though I could use lujvo for everything. And I don't expect that to change any time soon.