From rmcivor@macsrule.com Sat Feb 5 07:45:43 2000
X-Digest-Num: 355
Message-ID: <44114.355.1924.959273825@eGroups.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:45:43 -0500
From: "Robert A. McIvor" <rmcivor@macsrule.com>
Subject: Re: 3 loafs

At 4:43 PM -0500 2/4/00, John Cowan wrote:
>"Robert A. McIvor" wrote:
>
>> In Loglan, I would have said 'da [pa] gentci ne rebfoa' He/she/it
>> again-ate a bread-loaf, which put the stress on the repetition of the
>> eating act rather than the characteristics of the loaf.
>
>The Lojban-vocabulary version is "ko'a [pu] refcti pa nabytai". However,
>I would read that as meaning that the same loaf was eaten for a second
>time.
>
Interesting. I would not interpret Loglan in this way. 'ne rebfoa'
means 'exactly one loaf of bread', and is quite indefinite as to the bread
loaf,
and could in other circumstances be conceivably the same loaf or any other.
On the other hand, 'le rebfoa' would imply a particular loaf, and one would
be entitled to presume that it was the same one previously mentioned.

>We desperately need a published Lojban gismu/Loglan prim map, even though
>it will not be 100% accurate. LLG has the necessary data to publish
>such a thing, if the copyright permission can be (at long last) granted.

I will look into this possibility. I agree that it is desirable.

Sincerely,
Robert A. McIvor
(rmcivor@mac.com)