From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 23 13:28:44 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 23 Apr 2003 20:28:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 93178 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2003 20:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Apr 2003 20:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2003 20:28:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 198QrD-0000EF-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:28:43 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198Qr5-0000Dd-00; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:28:35 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198Qqu-0000DS-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:28:24 -0700 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h3NKSN2F017318 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h3NKSNxt001503 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.243.1.228]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h3NKSMU8021612 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 198Qqo-0000BP-00 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:28:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:28:18 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: mi'e Message-ID: <20030423202818.GA628@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030423165647.GC14253@ccil.org> <20030423181453.36557.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030423181453.36557.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-archive-position: 4913 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Rob Speer From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:14:53AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > To distinguish tanru from lujvo all we would need is a separator > cmavo. With the above morphology, we could have {bragrku} > for {brage'u} and {brake grku} for {barda gerku}, for example. > > And this morphology doesn't use stress at all to segregate > words. You've just defined my dream language: Lojban with a morphology that doesn't suck. Ceqli started out by changing Loglan's morphology to something very similar to that (and somewhat more appealing, by treating certain consonants as vowels, resulting in less-crunchy words like "bala") - but then it went all fuzzy and non-logical. My ideal language would be Lojban with the words simply mapped one-to-one into a new morphology (with the exception of the extra tanru-maker word). That way it would be trivial to convert from Lojban to the new language and back. -- Rob Speer