From xod@thestonecutters.net Wed Apr 23 20:54:25 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 24 Apr 2003 03:54:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 69218 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2003 03:54:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Apr 2003 03:54:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2003 03:54:25 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 198XoX-0003Ld-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:54:25 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198XoO-0003LJ-00; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:54:16 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 198XoC-0003Kf-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:54:04 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3O3sEAN018960 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:54:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h3O3sEYu018955 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:54:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:54:14 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [OT] God Syndrome (OR: The why of 'why') In-Reply-To: <20030424033925.GA59327@allusion.net> Message-ID: <20030423234231.U17896-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4930 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:33:53PM -0500, Jordan DeLong wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:13:45PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Jordan DeLong wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Jon MacLeod wrote: > > > > > > My proof that God exists is based on the mathematic probability of intelligent > > > > > > life existing in the universe, but it proof to me that God exists, and I am not > > > > > > trying to prove to others there is a God. You can believe what you want to > > > > > > belikeve, I refuse to push my beliefs onto others. > > > > > > > > > > ku'i ma'i lo cmaci ju lijda le tcidu cu tugni ganai le nibli gi le > > > > > selnibli > > > > > > > > .ie .i li'a naku le se cusku cu co'e lo cmaci .i mi pu pacna tu'a > > > > lonu la .ion. cu xusra da poi .ibu. jinvi ledu'u ke'a cu cmacykai > > > > nibli .i da'i lo tai tcini cu zmadu leka mi se cinri ce'u > > > > > > .ie .i ni'o li'a le du'u da naltedre'a prenu cu na nibli le du'u da cevni > > > .i ju'ocu'i da banli .i ku'i loi ka ce'u cevni cu seznatfe > > > > .i la .ians. pu smuni lo drata .i ri pu tavla fi le to to'e cnino > > toi sidbo po'u lesi'o da cevni ni'i le to jitfa toi za'i loinu lifri > > cfari cu to'e lakne .i mi pu benji zoi .ubu. > > http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/default.htm .ubu > [...] > > to .ibu puzi cusku fi mi va'o na'ebo le liste .i mi simsa do leka > to'e jimpe le se smuni be .ibu toi .ue .uanaicai ni ce'u djica le li'i cevni krici ba'e vedu'onai lo citri be lo lijda .i lo lijda puzu selfinti le nalcilre be fi lo saske be'o je terpa be lo rarna .i da poi cnino lijda zo'u gonai slabu lidja selbi'o gi mutce fenki -- In an opinion poll conducted in early March by Zogby, 97% of Saudis said they had an unfavorable opinion of the US. "I think that underestimates it," said Awardh Badhi, a political scientist with the Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies.