From ragnarok@pobox.com Sun May 04 14:00:35 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 4 May 2003 21:00:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17494 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 21:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 May 2003 21:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2003 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from craig [209.42.200.60] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id AF7A277B0076; Sun, 04 May 2003 17:00:42 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: Some ideas/questions (long) Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 17:00:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030504205158.GF28808@ccil.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.60] From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >Quine shows that if you replace the denotation of all terms systematically >with their complements (so that the term "Oskar" which previously denoted >Oskar now means the-entire-universe-except-Oskar), everything works fine: >all true statements remain true and all false ones false. Umm... That is blue. Everything-in-the-entire-universe-except-that does-everything-except-be every-color-but-blue. Which implies that the universe (except possibly that) is blue, right? From ragnarok@pobox.com Sun May 04 14:00:35 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 4 May 2003 21:00:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17494 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 21:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 May 2003 21:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2003 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from craig [209.42.200.60] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id AF7A277B0076; Sun, 04 May 2003 17:00:42 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: Some ideas/questions (long) Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 17:00:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030504205158.GF28808@ccil.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.60] From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >Quine shows that if you replace the denotation of all terms systematically >with their complements (so that the term "Oskar" which previously denoted >Oskar now means the-entire-universe-except-Oskar), everything works fine: >all true statements remain true and all false ones false. Umm... That is blue. Everything-in-the-entire-universe-except-that does-everything-except-be every-color-but-blue. Which implies that the universe (except possibly that) is blue, right?