From a.rosta@pmail.net Sun Feb 13 14:31:07 2000
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:31:07 -0000
From: "And Rosta" <a.rosta@pmail.net>
Subject: RE: 3 loafs

> From: John Cowan <cowan@locke.ccil.org>
> 
> Robert A. McIvor scripsit:
> 
> > >> In Loglan, I would have said 'da [pa] gentci ne rebfoa' 
> He/she/it
> > >> again-ate a bread-loaf, which put the stress on the repetition of the
> > >> eating act rather than the characteristics of the loaf.
> > >
> > >The Lojban-vocabulary version is "ko'a [pu] refcti pa nabytai". However,
> > >I would read that as meaning that the same loaf was eaten for a second
> > >time.
> > >
> > Interesting. I would not interpret Loglan in this way. 'ne rebfoa'
> > means 'exactly one loaf of bread', and is quite indefinite as to the bread
> > loaf,
> > and could in other circumstances be conceivably the same loaf or any other.
> 
> Ah, I see the problem. You mean to say that he is eating a loaf (the same
> or another) on a *different* occasion, whereas I understood you to mean
> that he is eating a loaf on *multiple* occasions, in which case I think
> it is clear that the same loaf is meant.

Surely this is a mere matter of scope. "For a moreth time
Ex, a loaf, He eat x" versus "Ex, a loaf, for a moreth time he eat x".
I guess you'd Lojban that by using "[moreth] time ku da" versus
"da [moreth time] ku", though I don't know how to do "moreth time".

As for the actual Lojban ex given above, my interpretation is John's.

--And.