From iad@MATH.BAS.BG Mon Jul 03 08:09:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25264 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 15:09:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jul 2000 15:09:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO argo.bas.bg) (195.96.224.7) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 15:08:59 -0000 Received: from banmatpc.math.bas.bg (root@banmatpc.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.2]) by argo.bas.bg (8.11.0.Beta1/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) with ESMTP id e63F8uO17470 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:08:56 +0300 Received: from iad.math.bas.bg (iad.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.88]) by banmatpc.math.bas.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA07410 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:08:56 +0300 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3960A3E9.88B975E0@math.bas.bg> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:32:09 +0300 X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: PLEA: Chinese names References: <8jhk56+b97f@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ivan A Derzhanski "Alfred W. Tueting (Tüting)" wrote: > [...] yet I don't think that a word py: 'shi' /cr/ > is *suffixed* with py: 'er' /yr/ yielding something > like 'shir'. In those cases the suffix is py: 'zi'. Ah, okay. It seems that my textbook (not uncharacteristically for scholarly works) is more concerned with the exhaustive treatment of all possibilities (what would happen if _-er_ were to be attached to _c(h)i_, _s(h)i_ or _z(h)i_?) than with the actual occurrence of such words. It does, however, cite _shi4r_ `affair', _ci2r_ `word' and _zi4r_ `character', and notes that they are pronounced as if the vowel were _e_ not _i_. --Ivan