From cowan@locke.ccil.org Mon Feb 22 07:01:23 1999 X-Digest-Num: 70 Message-ID: <44114.70.388.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:01:23 -0500 From: John Cowan Subject: Re: 'I say your name as ...' Jorge J. Llambías wrote: > One problem might be that, at least in Lojban, linguistic forms and > their phonetic realizations (or "expressions" and "utterances") are > referred to by the same objects. You can say {mi ciska zoi gy foo gy} > or {mi bacru zoi gy foo gy} and {zoi gy foo gy} is in one case referring > to a linguistic form and in the other case to a phonetic realization, > isn't it? Probably. But that doesn't mean that the lujvo "ba'usku", namely "b1=c1 phonetically expresses text c2 for audience c3 using utterance/medium b2=c4" doesn't deserve to exist; it may not be useful for expressing the relations between *Lojban* sounds and texts, but it is useful for talking about other langs in Lojban. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org You tollerday donsk? N. You tolkatiff scowegian? Nn. You spigotty anglease? Nnn. You phonio saxo? Nnnn. Clear all so! 'Tis a Jute.... (Finnegans Wake 16.5)