From cowan@ccil.org Sat Feb 10 10:02:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_3); 10 Feb 2001 18:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 65848 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2001 18:02:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2001 18:02:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Feb 2001 18:02:46 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14ReN8-0001M1-00; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:03:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] RE:su'u In-Reply-To: from And Rosta at "Feb 9, 2001 05:31:54 pm" To: And Rosta Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:03:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan And Rosta scripsit: > Each sense has a definition -- "goes miaow" is part of the definition > of 'cat'; "is married to Nora" is part of the definition of 'Lojbabhood'. I can't swallow this. Surely a cat without a voice is still a cat, and if Lojbab had never married Nora he would still be Lojbab. These can't be *defining* properties. As you know, I hold that "cat" is not a category at all, but an individual. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter