Re: [jboske] Re: [lojban] tautologies

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

la xod cusku di'e

> I thought the subjunctive referred to hypothetical worlds.

Well, it does involve hypothetical worlds. When you say
"whatever it costs" you bring into consideration a
whole range of hypothetical worlds, the real one
included among them.

> "costs what it costs" is a tautology, carrying no logical content about
> the price, but rather indicating emphasis. Classic application for modal
> selbri:
>
> fi'o jdima fe'u vecnu ta mi

Something like "with-price I buy it"? If we just want to emphasize
that there is a price, why not {vecnu ta mi ba'e da}?

> And of course, the ckinytadji way:
>
> fancu lo velvecnu le jei mi tervecnu kei nodada'o
> (My buying of it is orthogonal to its price)

But that doesn't say that I buy it. Eventually it might
mean that whether I buy it or not does not depend on
what the price is.

mu'o mi'e xorxes



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