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Re: [jboske] Re: [lojban] tautologies



la xod cusku di'e

mi puza cilre bai noda .i ji'a mi puzi speni bai noda .i ji'a mi ca'o bai
gunka

No, even in that context I can't interpret it as {bai noda}. It's always {bai zo'e}, and {zo'e} can't be {noda}.

You wrote:

"In other words, {fi'o jdima} tags a price obvious from context or
unimportant...."

Ok, I meant it the way a zo'e-filled place may indicate that the value that fills that place is unimportant. Not worth mentioning, even though it has to be something.

Prices are a domain. The price of an object is a variable. Both are
appropriate for le selfancu.

I don't think I can explain any further to you the difference that I see between a variable and the value that a variable takes, we've already been through this more than once, so I just give up on my attempts. You keep using {fancu} the way you do, I will keep avoiding it.

> le selfancu: a value in the domain
> le terfancu: a value in the range

A function that only maps one point to another is not very useful! Do you
want me to state a new bridi for every point in the domain?

You can talk of many values in the same bridi. Even of all the values in a range, that's what quantifiers are for.

> As for x4, you just put {li pa} there, which suggests that
> you are also using it for the value in the range. Something
> like "the function called x1 maps x2 (a value in the range)
> to x3=x4 (a value in the domain)". Unless you meant to use
> {li pa} not to refer to the number 1, but rather to the
> function that maps any value of the range to the number 1.

Yes, that's how lipa should be interpreted when in the le velfancu place.

I see, but that's not how I understand the language. {li pa} for me is the number 1, not a function that takes the number 1 as a value.

mu'o mi'e xorxes



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