Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:32847) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T1MFM-000461-BA; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:51 -0700 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4sf215007bkw.16 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Rhe47wgCSIolZEexxyX4iUcRED8LOf/al9BK1XfEzns=; b=ynnOFeeKcgXXsq78iwJ73fe/nYf1VoEXrJUB5SL8ezgw8jizVRhHFdJZ8iA+AuFVBo 8iiqMIflZ8T9t5BiQpVecnDomaS7b4MjdFmEwrb2q81E812sZuzjg2xiWyX0ZbcLPycC 2CiwG19VWC1ZvzNDCLGKEfFeYIDY//GDYi0a4= Received: by 10.180.92.104 with SMTP id cl8mr1123250wib.0.1344970416645; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.172.194 with SMTP id t42ls276847eel.0.gmail; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.193.195 with SMTP id k43mr6556866een.7.1344970416221; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.193.195 with SMTP id k43mr6556865een.7.1344970416211; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f171.google.com (mail-ey0-f171.google.com [209.85.215.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si4356914eep.0.2012.08.14.11.53.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.171; Received: by mail-ey0-f171.google.com with SMTP id h11so405985eaa.16 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.194.198 with SMTP id m46mr20778971een.13.1344970416120; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (87-194-76-177.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.76.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm8947106eep.13.2012.08.14.11.53.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <502A9EAD.3040603@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:53:33 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] carna References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Jonathan Jones, On 14/08/2012 09:46: > So, this has been going about for a bit. I'm sure most of you are already aware of it. > > Since this is the BPFK, I thought I'd see what the opinions of the people in charge of language changes etc. were. > > Specifically, what do the BPFK members think of doing the following: > > 1. Change the meaning of carna from "x1 turns/rotates/revolves around axis x2 in direction x3" to "x1 turns from x2 to x3" which has very little impact on usage thus far (all 144 instances of usage, that is). > > 2. Add two new gismu with the following meanings: > > word1: x1 is rotating counter-clockwise viewed from orientation x2 about rotational axis/axes (set if multiple) x3 > word2: x1 is rotating clockwise viewed from orientation x2 about rotational axis/axes (set if multiple) x3 I have no firm views on (1), but (2) seems crazy when there are very obvious lujvo based on right+turn and left+turn for clockwise and anticlockwise. --And. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.