Received: from mail-oa0-f63.google.com ([209.85.219.63]:57064) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UxHSK-0001pf-4Q; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:03:13 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f63.google.com with SMTP id f4sf2438070oah.28 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:02:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3rBtqtZyhV66yDZy+boUJnC6gMRP+APiNKygr+4BN88=; b=abTIwYvcX+zY/p/Spw7REr5qxr/RP8e96GSBNkNJyw3L03soWcl4QRNCKLR59FwqXa K6VT09T61urVKUc5O+Y5Aeh99DGXTo4cu6nJFVpPsK4L9SktOEoh+1VKxxqZfXrbjSlc ALV1D94y9HklHTflORVqUMm0dqFYCFxGYX+8TSA+V9t/ZdYRPfWwpqTxSk29jf5N8Vpr Efl7T2Rwf1vop+giMeA3dPP42iRwn1amnPaBNujG6emp9ctxkqfX/XK8JxEqSJjncDok OrmgLnoIDKopSvZbkoMsym51sPbHi5lrhDmf1mGczolptQyAA39tgNLcGoimzrNSctBy 4tJA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3rBtqtZyhV66yDZy+boUJnC6gMRP+APiNKygr+4BN88=; b=BKZpMlLNnL+APlkXvVyR4oR8AddseH/CFibTxVuGxILMNsL1lyRK3HAurg6haCjPTc oxYQxwj/gjq5zFde/P0iig9TJRTfrPdRa+oe+fDl05vnMjJBpGF9hSDXZBI8gS+7EIn0 wYr9Ifj4/uOGBOz4nWKHauLlgxz2gbL30qcPydiK0b49zHDrg+fPf6uQDfkPqj+zrOOy ajYafss4qDO1poPqqd18Y9saJb/Ygf03JPqxHYmMP3629PwBZcJUTpEzgBS973EGsFot FXcFq5jIOwIU4r1TMg8GQB2xsE6T+AM9QDuRjx05YSdjfrq04bYGRh/p+RAMfmv29Wic B/Zw== X-Received: by 10.50.77.78 with SMTP id q14mr1997706igw.2.1373551359386; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:02:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.130.40 with SMTP id ob8ls6770328igb.13.canary; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:02:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.101.110 with SMTP id ff14mr1995351igb.9.1373551358925; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:02:38 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <32ea0371-e8d8-4d96-aaa6-b6d4b5c0fb38@googlegroups.com> Subject: [bpfk] the definition of {gleki} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_153_27207442.1373551358131" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_153_27207442.1373551358131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The list http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu.txt gives the following definition of {gleki} *gleki gek gei happy 'gay' x1 is happy/gay/merry/glad/gleeful about x2 (event/state) * I suggest that this should be changed to *gleki gek gei happy 'glad' x1 is happy/merry/glad/gleeful about x2 (event/state) * * * * * Notice two changes? I suggest this because we already have a registered incident on IRC when one nintadni thought that {gleki} covered the sense of {mitcinpa'i} as well. This is NOT the problem of Lojban. This is only the problem of English changing. If "gay" no longer means "merry" (or it's almost never used in such sense nowadays) then the definition should be changed accordingly. (And no one forbids you to translate gimste to "Old English" zo'o) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_153_27207442.1373551358131 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The list http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu.txt
gives t= he following definition of {gleki}

gleki gek &n= bsp;   gei  happy              = ;  'gay'                x1 is = happy/gay/merry/glad/gleeful about x2 (event/state)       &n= bsp; 

I suggest that this should be c= hanged to

gleki gek     gei  hap= py                'glad'   &nb= sp;            x1 is happy/merry/glad/gleeful= about x2 (event/state)         


Notice two changes?
= I suggest this because we already have a registered incident on IRC when on= e nintadni thought that {gleki} covered the sense of {mitcinpa'i} as well.<= /div>
This is NOT the problem of Lojban. This is only the problem of En= glish changing.

If "gay" no longer means "merry" (= or it's almost never used in such sense nowadays) then the definition shoul= d be changed accordingly.


(And no o= ne forbids you to translate gimste to "Old English" zo'o)

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