Received: from mail-la0-f56.google.com ([209.85.215.56]:38231) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WqoPQ-0005Ou-ST; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:53:49 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f56.google.com with SMTP id mc6sf318852lab.11 for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YYksZE0wSyHV+P/SuAkVc253vHOh2yBabmmtibXsq2s=; b=zC0BBgfYh2ddOhmaq4dBbk7kNwEROnOR3ThBR3Zk/XewqN7B9NLjFmbf4r/sM9xIR+ FCudq9PInQ0mGImQjeTCvJWTPMimGdW9b3FPkLhZaI3DJ/q6LedyyygxarGwkG99Hor+ a5VNUVoAaNFMGI/NchE2vKp1nkW0hrMXacyQFkEujuyp2iraXrQm7+0ViSSe69MIATsR EGs6abQUCusUoE23RodphRIiijZYIrgqPnsBfXNnR59xN94FQJ4m9lEymBM+GfYxNiSi fi0kvYI6snSkZ1ozl/+89qg6wmYsUw+omdVWxXRxMcz0fVxRztDFEOSN3BPc2IJTVjjL mkRw== X-Received: by 10.180.89.231 with SMTP id br7mr8081wib.8.1401562409100; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.231.10 with SMTP id tc10ls226483wic.4.canary; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:53:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.181.13.196 with SMTP id fa4mr388751wid.6.1401562408871; Sat, 31 May 2014 11:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.15.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r49si5342388eep.0.2014.05.31.11.53.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 31 May 2014 11:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.19; Received: from [192.168.2.108] ([93.220.115.89]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LqQnR-1WMRXV1wuX-00e1Nq for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 20:53:28 +0200 Message-ID: <538A252F.6060204@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 20:53:35 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [bpfk] BPFK section: TAhE (ta'e vs na'o) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0FGslDnlEeVf/RcL8GjsmBWexCNScz0NuJE+0UjqGxkdEUvnkqd jyUYy0Rh3LhbzqOdu+eS59c9JVYlfqFH6oOUKwsi4W62Dft1SsPWAZ2YukybZyt1dhzLU/m YvCKXcPgjFFEn5BMiRkqVnvyMbL1aaVHypds/U1UkJeLU9qzVeqWA0ITNGm+jYVcckymTW8 0y91itl0h72s/d0yRdo7A== X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / The TAhE section is now more or less ready for voting. You can find it here: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Tense+Interval I also added the following comment about {ta'e}: "The sense of "habit" is commonly ignored in usage in favor of a more general word indicating that the event is common/normal/ordinary. Otherwise it would make little sense to use it for events that don't involve an agent. The difference between {ta'e}'s usage and the intended meaning of {na'o} is almost undistinguishable as things stand. Current usage has {ta'e} as {fi'o jai ze'a fadni} and {na'o} is almost never used." It seems the distinction between {ta'e} and {na'o} has never been very clear. I remember some very old jboske threads about it. This needs to be resolved. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.