= On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Riley Martinez-Lynch <= shunpiker@gmail.co= m> wrote:

The BPF= K pages for "nonce connectives" and "lerfu forming cmavo" seem to indicate that {ba'= e bu} should not form a letteral.=C2=A0

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However, "nonce connectives" also includes this exa= mple:

ko pensi me'o depsna bu .e me'= ;o ba'e bu

Think about "hesitatio= n sound", and the emphasis letter.

=C2=A0The parsers are also at odds: YACC and = jbofihe reject {ba'e bu}, and camxes accepts it.

There were a lot of comings and goings wit= h this, and nothing is officially decided yet. Personally, I think the exam= ple and camxes are correct and the definitions have to be adapted.

My reasoning is that BAhE is not a "magic word&quo= t; (by which I mean words that grab other words without much caring to what= selma'o they belong), and magic words have priority over ordinary gram= mar rules. zo, bu, zei, lo'u, zoi, si don't care much or at all abo= ut the word class of the word they operate on, they just ignore its class a= nd eliminate its usual function. BAhE on the other hand is like UI, it can = attach to practically any word, but it leaves that word's function alon= e. That's why the grammars are so different, magic words just have thei= r own spefific rule, whereas BAhE and UI have to show up in the core rules = of practically all other words.

The issue is relatively minro though, since I think it = only affects "BAhE bu", "BAhE zei ...." and "BAhE = si".

I assume that whatever = is true for {ba'e bu} is also true for {za'e bu}, but I'm confu= sed by the seemingly contradictory statements that {za'e} is "gram= matically identical to za'e" and yet "for grammatical purpose= s, {za'e} binds with and marks the following word". It would seem = that whatever it means to "bind" the following word, it's not= a grammatically significant operation, since {ba'e} and {za'e} dif= fer in that aspect.

The wording should be unified. BAhE does= n't change the function of the word it attaches to, much like UI. =C2= =A0=C2=A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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