Received: from mail-vc0-f190.google.com ([209.85.220.190]:48929) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wv3Hk-0000YG-9h; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:24 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f190.google.com with SMTP id ij19sf169421vcb.7 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0XvDFfL3fevvl93H3Ah67xjeT49jkMn0LTsmx1tZa8Y=; b=p8ccxRdue7nX7ByCWiPt9YUUZmyO0Mt/qJf/UZrjoTrvb0eLvkUgqRNL1HNleRGuN2 MM2MHFeStETbVejBIjdaxHU20/Cq9RO6he4M5Hc3MiI3s+IqQqwQ6v1Y36rOdOsH8UA/ K2ALgJZLGmZPWOldis8hlgyGLA8wAfN+bS+oLzM1G7k44UPipc74BGCMz6d0tBqxS9uZ eqN4+nA/cWsokgYVjfsIQM/hSQfGvO65b9mJow6VdJFKNASeZUcYBw71n9Scq+pZ/kLi G1vFs0a3jnhvWPn0sW+EyC2q+K+vSEEF7jSuROW2Z449sHtDX2hABMj0cfq5mGEDR6TL utPw== X-Received: by 10.140.85.241 with SMTP id n104mr7111qgd.23.1402572905516; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.89.203 with SMTP id v69ls2916049qgd.6.gmail; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.112.12 with SMTP id x12mr13817159yhg.56.1402572905302; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x234.google.com (mail-ve0-x234.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pr8si27810vdb.1.2014.06.12.04.35.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::234; Received: by mail-ve0-x234.google.com with SMTP id jw12so1635832veb.11 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.103.141 with SMTP id k13mr43735190vco.25.1402572905155; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.170.73 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20140610152942.GA1582@mercury.ccil.org> <73581D93CF4542F0B52FDBDD7EB241C9@gmail.com> <20140611214105.GC28473@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:35:05 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BAhE + BU From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b342d30c8945e04fba1f340 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b342d30c8945e04fba1f340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Alex Burka wrote: > bu > Combines with the previous word to make a Lojban letteral, provided that > it is not one of the quote cmavo (ZO, ZOI, LOhU, LEhU) or one of the > erasure cmavo (SI, SA, SU), ZEI, or FAhO. If the aforementioned previous > word is already a letteral, the resulting letteral will not necessarily be > the same, for instance, "ky. bu" is different from "ky". In addition to > single words, bu can be combined with a letteral that is already a > composite of a word+bu, a zei-lujvo, a zo-quoted word, a lo'u-quoted string > of words or a zoi-quoted foreign text. If there is no previous word, "bu" > is in error; this entails that "bu bu" by itself is also ungrammatical. > LEhU shouldn't be there, it's at most a magic word assistant, not a magic word. "le'u bu", "le'u zei valsi", "le'u si" should be fine, unless le'u has already been claimed by lo'u, but that's no different than for any other word. LEhU is like a zoi-delimiter, except LOhU always brings its own assistant whereas ZOI picks one from the members of the public. > *ba'e* (BAhE) > Emphasize next word. Forethought emphasis indicator. Indicates that next > word is especially emphasized or emphatic. For grammatical purposes, "ba'e" > marks the following word but does not change its nature. (The construct > behaves just as the marked word by itself.) The two words are considered > distinct for "sa" matching purposes. Multiple BAhE cmavo may be used in > succession, and they combine to mark the next non-BAhE word.See also > za'e, .ui, sa, "Magic Words". > > - Keywords: Emphasize next word, emphasize next. > > Not sure why "sa" is mentioned specifically. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b342d30c8945e04fba1f340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Alex Burka <= aburka@seas.upen= n.edu> wrote:
bu
Combines with the previous w= ord to make a Lojban =20 letteral, provided that it is not one of the quote cmavo (ZO, ZOI, LOhU, LEhU) or one of the erasure cmavo (SI, SA, SU), ZEI, or FAhO. If =20 the aforementioned previous word is already a letteral, the resulting =20 letteral will not necessarily be the same, for instance, "ky. bu"= is =20 different from "ky". In addition to single words, bu can be combi= ned =20 with a letteral that is already a composite of a word+bu, a zei-lujvo, a zo-quoted word, a=C2=A0lo'u-quoted string of words or a zoi-quoted for= eign text. If there is no previous word, "bu" is in error; this entails that "bu b= u" by itself is also ungrammatical.

LEh= U shouldn't be there, it's at most a magic word assistant, not a ma= gic word. "le'u bu", "le'u zei valsi", "le= 'u si" should be fine, unless le'u has already been claimed by= lo'u, but that's no different than for any other word. LEhU is lik= e a zoi-delimiter, except LOhU always brings its own assistant whereas ZOI = picks one from the members of the public.
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ba'e (BAhE)
Emphasize next word. Forethought emphasi= s indicator. Indicates that next word is especially emphasized or emphatic. For grammatical purposes, "ba'e" ma= rks the =20 following word but does not change its nature.=C2=A0(The construct behaves = just as the marked word by itself.) The two words are considered distinct f= or "sa" matching purposes.=C2=A0Multiple BAhE cmavo may be used i= n succession, and they combine to mark the next non-BAhE word.
See also za'e, .ui, sa, "Magic Words".
  • Keywords: Emphasize next word, emphasize next.

Not sure why "sa" is mentioned speci= fically.
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mu'o mi'e xorxes

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