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[50.77.84.234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c6sm4168172qag.0.2014.06.15.12.16.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Jun 2014 12:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:16:14 -0400 From: Alex Burka To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <398FD5E0C4F548CEADCC06913675F9E7@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47F15AE0B2DE4D7C94EEF744BC09E806@gmail.com> References: <20140610152942.GA1582@mercury.ccil.org> <73581D93CF4542F0B52FDBDD7EB241C9@gmail.com> <20140611214105.GC28473@mercury.ccil.org> <6ED7D22D59EC4AD88B7BDFCE5C32F0D1@gmail.com> <821D3D78D52141D28B34F45A01FE1DEC@gmail.com> <47F15AE0B2DE4D7C94EEF744BC09E806@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [bpfk] BAhE + BU X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: durka42@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=durka42@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="539df0fe_12200854_dbe" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --539df0fe_12200854_dbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I made these changes (incorporating xorxes' quibbles). There was a little m= ore than just that one mention of LEhU on the Magic Words page so I cleaned= it up. =20 mi'e la durka mu'o fe'o =20 On Thursday, June 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Alex Burka wrote: > Okay, let's just remove the sentence. It's not needed now that I took out= the confusing "binding" language. > =20 > On Thursday, June 12, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > =20 > > =20 > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Alex Burka wrote: > > > Oh. I took that to mean {ta za'e gumri sa bergu} means {ta za'e bergu= } but {ta za'e gumri sa ba'e bergu} means {ta ba'e bergu}. But in terms of = erasure, presumably BAhE and the marked word are distinct for {si} as well,= and for {su} of course it doesn't matter. So the definition should read "T= he two words are considered distinct for "si"/"sa" matching purposes." =20 > > =20 > > They are always distinct, also for bu, for zei, for zo. Does it have to= be pointed out? Do we also point out that "lo broda"counts as two words, o= r that "ui nai" counts as two words, or that "pa mu" counts as two words? = =20 > > =20 > > sa has different competing definitions, so I suppose the comment is for= the one where "sa" looks at the selma'o of the following word. > > =20 > > mu'o mi'e xorxes =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > -- =20 > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "BPFK" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:bpfk-list+unsubs= cribe@googlegroups.com). > > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com (mailto= :bpfk-list@googlegroups.com). > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > =20 > -- =20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:bpfk-list+unsubscr= ibe@googlegroups.com). > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com (mailto:b= pfk-list@googlegroups.com). > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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I made these changes (incorporating xorxes' quibbles).= There was a little more than just that one mention of LEhU on the Magic Wo= rds page so I cleaned it up.

mi'e la durka mu'o fe'o
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On Thursday, June 12, 2014 at = 5:00 PM, Alex Burka wrote:

Ok= ay, let's just remove the sentence. It's not needed now that I took out the= confusing "binding" language.
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On Thursday, June 12, 2014 at = 4:58 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote:


On Thu, = Jun 12, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Alex Burka <aburka@seas.upenn.edu> wrote:
Oh. I took that to mean {ta za'e gumri sa bergu} means = {ta za'e bergu} but {ta za'e gumri sa ba'e bergu} means {ta ba'e bergu}. Bu= t in terms of erasure, presumably BAhE and the marked word are distinct for= {si} as well, and for {su} of course it doesn't matter. So the definition = should read "The two words are considered distinct for "si"/"sa" matching p= urposes."

They are always distinct, also for b= u, for zei, for zo. Does it have to be pointed out? Do we also point out th= at "lo broda"counts as two words, or that "ui nai" counts as two words, or = that "pa mu" counts as two words? 

sa has different competing definitions, so I suppose th= e comment is for the one where "sa" looks at the selma'o of the following w= ord.

mu'o mi'e xorxes
  
 

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