Received: from mail-pd0-f188.google.com ([209.85.192.188]:43969) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XPIJv-0008WH-M6; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:28 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f188.google.com with SMTP id w10sf1513289pde.5 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=AmQYqdElZJ8VUXY8zJZ58OvJZbwPMbft42ljvYzBXlM=; b=D6UuVfNRy7DvcZigoXCVjtyavD9V1aIg1WVXUBCgpf0o4Tdz529/dCCD497mxjsMN9 0PAVl/dUSj7tHPAlAvlWjkTG0dFxyO5AFlXR6FLjXzy9CwJwO5O+5bH1OJ+DQ/co6U5A STS8ByvNjvDohW9mtX+4H7MVvoxpxq4EYXzu8iiekyahieWR21Q4S3hyk3SEbCRe/zyk MpsREYeRXiv4WlGj5bvTZALy9GCVqu1jTQlVNbhNfO+bO1vuO5TXVugVlAn5Zrmemlgc pbhujfPYN4EgSfSq7VHnfRZ9YR9AVT6VNGNnk7CEfS5m+fuDMRMcZ2MqAY/gLRJDZSAa jSVw== X-Received: by 10.50.142.104 with SMTP id rv8mr5436igb.11.1409780538753; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.128.42 with SMTP id nl10ls148960igb.25.gmail; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.252.6 with SMTP id zo6mr119259pac.40.1409780538414; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x229.google.com (mail-vc0-x229.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cd2si154085vdc.0.2014.09.03.14.42.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229; Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hq11so9658693vcb.14 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.165.129 with SMTP id yy1mr28468vdb.57.1409780538300; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.204.203 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54073B1E.8040609@gmx.de> References: <54073B1E.8040609@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 18:42:18 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] doi cmima be bypyfyky zoi ly..tai,UAN..ly. cu ei gendra gi'i gendra From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2c01632607e0502301c22 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c2c01632607e0502301c22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, selpa'i wrote: > > When I made that change to ilmentufa I did consider that too, and in the > end I also went with the simpler rule, except it was to allow everything > instead of nothing. I now think that the middle ground would be preferable, > because camxes currently forbids a lot of easy-to-pronounce combinations > while ilmentufa allows a few hard-to-distinguish ones. > Why "a lot" in one case and "a few" in the other? Isn't it the same number for both? :) diphthong = expr:( ( a u !u / ( (a i / e i / o i ) !i ) ) !nucleus ) > {return _join(expr);} > > This allows "taiuan" and "auie", but forbids "aiia" and "auua". > It makes some sense. It's sort of kind of similar to the "no double consonant" rule. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c2c01632607e0502301c22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> = wrote:

When I made that change to ilmentufa I did consider that too, and in the en= d I also went with the simpler rule, except it was to allow everything inst= ead of nothing. I now think that the middle ground would be preferable, bec= ause camxes currently forbids a lot of easy-to-pronounce combinations while= ilmentufa allows a few hard-to-distinguish ones.

Why "a lot" in one case and &quo= t;a few" in the other? =C2=A0Isn't it the same number for both? :)= =C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 diphthong =3D expr:( ( a u !u / ( (a i / e i / o i ) !i ) ) != nucleus ) {return _join(expr);}

This allows "taiuan" and "auie", but forbids "aiia= " and "auua".

It makes s= ome sense. It's sort of kind of similar to the "no double consonan= t" rule.

mu'o mi'e xorxes=C2=A0

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