Received: from mail-qa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.216.55]:36769) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xg0hK-0002o8-7h; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:19:47 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f55.google.com with SMTP id x12sf692716qac.0 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:19:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RkgUGo5GPTSuvvCHhFid/oAfXP/QFQ0A+FJhJTZoNvQ=; b=bMiCZ9FJVpMN6agVvpEFbEOdkfJrDaYnREWLb3eLo4aFtWVv/9E0oC6Vv75nj4te18 xRe/Mv90RRDsBjGElhGdQZC3lDhaoDZUtuxQ8SxIW3M6NeqGCO+zZEWA6vzjceawXknv N9U8L1MBCh7+fFbPHkRh8v85lTaLoZAeTlG4F7WNYgSR3bFZsPxDK9BRorxqyVLoaBBy eoEDTVEs9gKBUx91Q7JordEz0DId3/qEXhE8uB/jFL1Vxo9uQMK2oWsBWdqJXXQpylR9 1ll1tHvq4Lzo1JJodTYhpx1rqESnmGXYGWyJ4Kdfhek6DiERXfl4esEBV4QQ5Z6mquhD gQ6g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RkgUGo5GPTSuvvCHhFid/oAfXP/QFQ0A+FJhJTZoNvQ=; b=GWFZEVYijPhxjWaVAx2HU26NBrskqrE9SAa0hDfRDm0Be6uI1LaEJHY1BCO92bHHJc 7flaqGhXN+ocDf8omLcBta69wk8waBeMWzivmc2mNtPReHjldzzPB9LxJof7ouv3uNs5 FgwlvILt4MdUj/faiznVozU7IJI+t2TSOoqBwMg5FFMrOwO1FvFPY0owIy0zh1q7nSgp dzwQeD4qcpY1GvcWwpukmAXq66bz47t+A3xmhdZITrHlWa14Ac/QZwczRatYHODviAvG o6Z2izb4dwTWLWYY/9wEUdi2WzVE/WtNT7N+1LapPkV0QfNUq3kcvEsxWHIftjM9XNMo 0Pig== X-Received: by 10.50.134.69 with SMTP id pi5mr134568igb.2.1413764375100; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:19:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.15.205 with SMTP id 74ls1401471iop.92.gmail; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:19:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.43.233 with SMTP id z9mr132372igl.5.1413764374886; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:19:33 -0700 (PDT) From: guskant To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-Id: Subject: [bpfk] official cmavo form MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gusni.kantu@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_84_1363585951.1413764373361" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_84_1363585951.1413764373361 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 coi ro me byfy peg morphology allows cmavo beginning with "consonant glide": http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm cmavo-form <- !h !cluster onset (nucleus h)* (!stressed nucleus / nucleus !cluster) / y+ / digit onset <- h / consonant? glide / initial while CLL3.4 disallows it: "the ten following ones [diphtongs with on-glide, i.e. beginning with i or u] are used only as stand-alone words and in Lojbanized names and borrowings." Which is official now? La jbovlaste allows it based on peg morphology, and la gleki and I don't agree to the new rule. Concretely, an experimental cmavo "jie'e'e" is now discussed: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=27527;natlangword=0;commentid=0;definition=0 If this new rule is official, CLL3.4 must be modified. mi'e la guskant mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_84_1363585951.1413764373361 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
coi ro me byfy

peg morphology allows cmavo beginnin= g with "consonant glide":

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A= +PEG+Morphology+Algorithm
cmavo-form <- !h !cluster onset (nucleus h)= * (!stressed nucleus / nucleus !cluster) / y+ / digit
onset <-  = h / consonant? glide / initial

while CLL3.4 disallows it:
"the te= n following ones [diphtongs with on-glide, i.e. beginning with i or u] are = used only as stand-alone words and in Lojbanized names and borrowings."
=
Which is official now? La jbovlaste allows it based on peg morphology, = and la gleki and I don't agree to the new rule. Concretely, an experimental= cmavo "jie'e'e" is now discussed:
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.= html?valsi=3D27527;natlangword=3D0;commentid=3D0;definition=3D0

If t= his new rule is official, CLL3.4 must be modified.

mi'e la guskant m= u'o

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