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selpa'i, On 20/10/2014 13:23:
> la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e
>> The PEG morphology is not yet official. I would have been happy to
>> disallow "consonant glide" as a valid onset altogether, but other people
>> were opposed to that at the time. Some would have even allowed "CC
>> glide" as a syllable onset, so allowing a single consonant was something
>> of a compromise. I would be happy to go with the more strict "onset <-
>> h / glide / initial" if that's the new consensus, although in that case
>> there are probably several words in jbovlaste that would have to be revi=
sed.
>
> My personal position is that I definitely would want to disallow any CiV =
where C is a sibilant (e.g. ?{sia}) or a dental (e.g. ?{tia}) [1], because =
they tend to degenerate into simpler forms over time (e.g. {ca} and {tca} r=
espectively) and are hard to distiniguish for many people. I would ban them=
 in any word, not just in cmavo.
>
> Regarding forms like {kia} (which must be pronounced [kja]), they bother =
me slightly less, but I wouldn't miss them if they got removed.

Why must Lojban have onsets and syllabification? /Cia/ is problematic only =
if /Ci-/ must constitute an onset.

> So one could either ban just the ones that are likely to cause
> problems, or ban all for simplicity's sake.

I'd ban none.

> I see no problems with {ie'o} as a cmavo form.

How about {a'ua}?

> [1] The are some additional phonotactic constraints I would install, but =
the details seem irrelevant here.

I think Lojban already has way more phonotactic constraints than is necessa=
ry...

--And.
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