Received: from mail-lb0-f186.google.com ([209.85.217.186]:40919) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xi3TJ-0007cm-JI; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:49 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f186.google.com with SMTP id z11sf72366lbi.3 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XHqQ4sc6HX53gl5KJnYXsDVmmiJwL1ESUD8Kcw9iZH0=; b=jWTiSZ1jBy4zn+44H55XRMTSmO5Cghv43Xh5zQUdHCdyZTBB2ihfX+s3eCcXTS42/p pF/UA0zOfgrKidUIpa9v5NMqD7ulEwWN2sw8WawuH9GWnyiUx/47G24SMxJQnwdBV7qy BaZNJdATiVRegUfFDtW+mYJAPKuTWgMzCsEm0g/y3N23jLLR1G/CLdAdzV1H8GF2j1aI +2mxnpMLwt/g9ImlkJqIANjE9R4D8roW6mlaulDahkGF6bBzA0uy4vzE7S9u8p1418GB fwO7GIxafUNJ36fQxPcMfLVn0K5nUC3vL+6ZQtVgUWuR/4b0rabpYAf+gSA99A4N91Py AvUA== X-Received: by 10.180.9.163 with SMTP id a3mr34872wib.1.1414251693979; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.82.233 with SMTP id l9ls253021wiy.40.canary; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.181.11.130 with SMTP id ei2mr2023810wid.3.1414251693715; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p7si372350wiz.1.2014.10.25.08.41.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d; Received: by mail-wg0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id l18so2953642wgh.16 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.211.206 with SMTP id ne14mr11207673wic.79.1414251693623; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.103.65 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:41:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20141025153624.GA1727@mercury.ccil.org> References: <33A9DB5129C54FFF85FCDD708B6909D8@gmail.com> <9c2066d4-8da6-48ec-9cfb-63f79ca42187@googlegroups.com> <20141025153624.GA1727@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:41:33 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla From: Gleki Arxokuna To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37d44d25131050641213e X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c37d44d25131050641213e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2014-10-25 19:36 GMT+04:00 John Cowan : > Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit: > > > artmxozaiko > > kaktnxo > > mastlxa > > etc. etc. > > These words are far worse than their x-less equivalents. Better to > reformulate > the grammar to allow art-mo-zai-ko. > .ie I am fine with removing this word *in particular*. However, in general I don't see any problems with pronouncing {mastla}. Why {mastra} is a fine brivla but {mastla} should not be (morphological classes apart)? > -- > John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org > Income tax, if I may be pardoned for saying so, is a tax on income. > --Lord Macnaghten (1901) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c37d44d25131050641213e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2014-10-25 19:36 GMT+04:00 John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org= >:
Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit= :

> artmxozaiko
> kaktnxo
> mastlxa

etc. etc.

These words are far worse than their x-less equivalents.=C2=A0 Better to re= formulate
the grammar to allow art-mo-zai-ko.
.ie
I am= fine with removing this =C2=A0word in particular.
However= , in general I don't see any problems with pronouncing {mastla}.
<= div>
Why {mastra} is a fine brivla but {mastla} should not be= (morphological classes apart)?


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Income tax, if I may be pardoned for saying so, is a tax on income.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --Lord Macnaghten (= 1901)

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